Soft-drink bomb plot: not physically possible


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Nickel Ranttm:
 Liquid Bombers Prove:
"They Hate Our Freedoms!"
by Edgar J. Steele
August 19, 2006

"You can fool some of the people all of the time
And you can fool all of the people some of the time,
But you can't fool all of the people all of the time."
  --- Abraham Lincoln, 16th US President (1809-1865)
"Fool me once, shame on ‹ shame on you.

Fool me ... unnnhhh ... you can't get fooled again."  (sound clip, click here)

  --- George W. Bush, 43rd US President (Nashville, Tenn., 9/17/02)
My name is Edgar J. Steele.  This is a Nickel Rant.

Muslims were planning to blow up a bunch of jetliners enroute from London to 
America - or so say George Bush and Tony Blair.

Muslims without tickets.
Muslims without passports.
Muslims without bombs.

Muslims without a clue ... and they aren't the only ones, it turns out.  Without
a clue, that is.

What kind of bombs?  TATP bombs, short for triacetone triperoxide.  What's more,
Bush and Blair told us that Muslims favor the TATP bomb, mixed on the spot with 
separate liquids.  With that lie, both Bush and Blair foreclosed any possibility
that the Muslims involved actually were guilty.  With that lie, both Bush and 
Blair disclosed themselves for the treasonous, lying criminals that they are.  
Why?  Glad you asked.

To Build the Impossible Bomb

You see ... it can't be done.  It quite simply cannot be done.  Not in any 
airplane toilet.  Not with any resources that might be available aboard any 
airplane other than Tom Swift's Flying Lab.  Not with the time afforded by a 
Trans-Atlantic flight.  And certainly - not by anybody without chemistry lab 
training and experience - not under the circumstances claimed, anyway.

If Muslims favor TATP bombs - and there is evidence to support the claim that 
Muslims use TATP bombs - then Muslims who might do so know full well the 
limitations and hazards inherent to such an explosive.  No Muslim in his right 
mind would attempt what has been claimed, because he would know it can't be done
- and, believe me, doing it under any circumstances would require a Muslim in 
his right mind.  At best, the guy simply would kill himself, and do little 
damage to the plane's toilet.  Regardless, nobody would be allowed the 
opportunity to spend hours in the toilet ... not aboard a jetliner.  In a 
moment, I will prove to you why TATP simply cannot be made aboard jetliners, but
first, please be really clear about the significance of that fact:  that it 
conclusively proves Bush and Blair to be lying weasels.  Not just dumb.  Not 
just stupid.  Lying, treasonous, unforgivable, murdering bastards.

TATP or Not TATP? - That is the Question
A friend with a doctorate in chemistry sent me the following:

"According to the official government story, TATP (triacetone triperoxide) was 
the explosive these conspirators were planning to manufacture aboard the 

"This story is not plausible for a number of reasons, but let's take a quick 
look at just enough of the science so as not to provide anybody with a guide to 
making an actual bomb:  TATP is made from hydrogen peroxide solution, acetone 
and sulfuric acid.  The reaction can be carried out with just about any 
concentration, but is best done with concentrated solutions of both peroxide and

"The peroxide and acetone can be pre-mixed, but the acid must be added, a drop 
at a time, to the solution, all the while continuously stirring it and keeping 
it continuously chilled.   This step of the process will take several hours, 
during which the fumes given off will be substantial and quite overpowering, 
thus a lab-quality air evacuation system is required.  (ES:  right here, the 
whole idea of a TATP bomb becomes ludicrous.  Difficult in a lab, but impossible
in an airplane due to the environment - the toilet - and the time requirement.)

"One then must let the resulting solution stand for an extended period at 
temperatures above the freezing point, but definitely below 10 Celsius (50 
Fahrenheit).  Above 10 Celsius, the TATP does not form; instead, diperoxide 
forms, which is so unstable it cannot be worked with.  The time required for the
reaction to go to completion is at least 24 hours and often several days.

"Once the TATP forms, it crystallizes as snowflakes from the solution and must 
be harvested by filtration and the liquid discarded.  The TATP then is dried and
carefully stored until needed.  It must be stored below 10 Celsius or it 
converts spontaneously to the unstable diperoxide.

"There is neither the time, the workspace nor the other materials required to 
make TATP on an airliner.  The time required, the temperatures required, the 
workspace required and the need to dry the chemical prior to use preclude this 
story being reasonable.  This chemical process is much more sensitive than 
making, for example, nitroglycerin."

The technically proficient reading this will recognize that a necessary step has
been omitted and some others have been altered in critical ways.  None of these 
purposeful camouflages alter the ingredients or the time, care and equipment 
required.  Nor will I describe how TATP can be fabricated beforehand and then 
detonated aboard an airliner in flight.  After all, though we want to 
demonstrate the impossibility of what has been claimed, we don't want anybody 
actually trying this at home - and there really are some genuine whack jobs out 
there.  After all, we elect some of them to public office.

An excellent (and humorous) on-line discussion by British writer Thomas Greene, 
also as to why TATP simply cannot be made aboard a plane: "Mass murder in the 
skies: was the plot feasible?"   Mr. Greene agrees with my friend, the PhD in 
chemistry, and concludes his description of the process of creating TATP with:  
"So the fabled binary liquid explosive - that is, the sudden mixing of hydrogen 
peroxide and acetone with sulfuric acid to create a plane-killing explosion, is 
out of the question."

So it's impossible to make TATP as claimed, yet still they confiscate liquids 
from us, including sodas and baby formula, not to mention toothpaste and, even, 
lipsticks?  Even if possible to make TATP as claimed, the individual smells of  
peroxide, acetone and sulfuric acid are obvious enough to preclude people having
to be shaken down and terrorized by the airport Gestapo in this fashion.  You 
have to wonder:  Just exactly what is going on?

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them

Incidentally, British officials often claim that the "London 7/7" train/bus 
bombings, without any proof whatsoever, were done by Muslims with TATP in their 
backpacks.  Those explosions, per eyewitnesses, came from beneath the floors, 
where the explosive had to have been placed earlier, then detonated either 
remotely or via timer.  And Blair fed Bush some of the lies he has been caught 
out in by so many.  Need any more proof that Blair is a liar, as well?

Did you know that, with a huge and increasingly restless Muslim population in 
England, only 12% of all British Muslims arrested on terror charges ever end up 
being charged with a crime, while only 2% get convicted, almost always of 
something minor and never of anything related to terrorism?  You heard about the
arrests, though, didn't you?  Why the difference?  Because the war on terror 
quite simply is a war on us, not on Muslims.

In the government's eyes, we are the terrorists.  In the memorable words of my 
buddy, Al:  "The Patriot Act - so named because it was designed to find and 
eliminate Patriots before they expose how corrupt our government has become."  
Why does government fear us so?  What does it know that we do not?  In other 
words, exactly what is it that our government officials intend to do to us, such
that they feel the need to create a police state so as to protect themselves 
from us?

They Hate Our Freedoms

Don't forget:  They hate our freedoms.  Bush, Blair and the others, that is.  
Not the Muslims.  However, the Muslims are getting downright pissed about our 
wading into their countries, either directly or via Israel, then killing and 
maiming everybody in sight and destroying their villages, roads and cities.  The
Muslims now have every reason to hate us.  Honestly - do you really blame them?

One week after 9/11, in a televised speech to Congress, Bush laid down the 
mantra - his justification for eternal war:  "Americans are asking, why do they 
hate us? ... They hate our freedoms..."

I nearly puked when I first heard Bush say it.  I cannot tell you the response 
it now provokes, else they would come and take me away, for sure.

Just for fun, click here for an excellent video accounting by MSNBC's otherwise 
lamentable Joe Scarborough on the verbal and mental acuity of our President.

Bush has run out of the sort of lies that "fool all of the people some of the 
time."  Now he is left only with fooling "some of the people all of the time."  
Regrettably, those people, who believe anything told them by CNN and Fox News, 
are beyond our reach because, as comedian Ron White likes to say:  "You can't 
fix stupid!"  There is a segment of both America and Britain that quite simply 
will roll along, believing anything that Bush, Blair and their controlled media 
have to say.

However, now you and I know better, don't we?  In fact, most of us no longer 
believe anything that Bush and Blair tell us.  What's more, we now know better 
than to believe anything Bush and Blair ever did tell us!

Yes, it has become more than clear why there is so much killing all around the 
world these days.  They hate our freedoms.  There's only one problem:  "They" 
are you, Mr. Bush ... you and the other members of the blood-thirsty and 
oil-hungry Zionist regime running America, Britain, Israel and most of the rest 
of the Western World these days.

You clearly have demonstrated, Mr. Bush, with your appointment of Zionists and 
incompetent sycophants (all too often, one and the same) into every crack, 
crevice and cubby of your administration, with your stacking of the courts, with
your abandonment of the rule of law, with your purging of the military officer 
corps, with your shocking misuse of our military enlisted personnel and with 
your treasonous disdain for the Constitution ... that it is you who hates our 
freedoms!  You sort of told us the truth back in 2001.  What you neglected to 
mention was that you meant your entire administration and the criminal cabal for
which you are but a belly-crawling, lickspittle lackey.

You first proved just whom you meant hated our freedoms with your 
abysmally-misnamed Patriot Act.  With the increasing revelations of your 
involvement in 9/11, still more of us awakened.  Torture.  Murder.  Illegal 
spying on us.  Now, with event after event, lie after lie, there is a huge 
number of Americans wise to your lying.  And our number grows every day!

To Dream the Impossible Dream

Meanwhile, your days are numbered, Mr. Bush.  First, we're going to replace 
every single Congressman, Republican and Democrat alike, who voted you the right
to conduct war in our name without a formal declaration - every single 
Congressman who voted support for Israel's campaign of genocide against innocent
civilians in the Middle East.  Lieberman was just the first.  Then we're going 
to impeach and convict you, then remove you from office, for the highest crimes 
ever committed against America by a sitting President.  Then, Mr. Bush, you will
be handed over to an appropriate tribunal to be tried for your war crimes.  
Finally, Mr. President, it will be our singular honor and pleasure to witness 
your being hanged by the neck until you are dead, as judges like to say, for 
your unspeakable crimes against humanity, both at home and abroad.

Oh ... and, Mr. Bush?  May your soul burn in Hell for all of eternity.

My name is Edgar J. Steele.  Thanks for listening.  Please visit my web site,, for other messages just like this one.


Copyright ©2006, Edgar J. Steele

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