Re: China & Russia mobilize divisions


Richard Moore

Hi folks,

Sorcha Faal's article may have been a hoax. I've seen nothing
on any news sites, including Russian, that mention any
mobilization. I had a feeling it was too good to be true!

Sorcha, if that's what his or her name is, has a website
( It has interesting stuff,
worthwhile stuff, but always the details get pushed a bit,
exaggerated a bit.

I had the impression that had a bit of integrity,
and that's why I went with the story. It may even turn out to
be true - such actions are more than warranted and appropriate
- but so far it seems unlikely.

Below are some of the comments people sent in.

At the very end is a more accurate assessment of the
increasing cooperation between Russia and China.


Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:23:47 -0400
From: Paul Wolf <>
Subject: Re: * Flash * China & Russia mobilize divisions to
surround  U.S. bases

Richard, note that of these articles, the first is unsourced,
unless the source is  Will need to get some
verification of this - if true, then it's very scary.  I was
just listening to c-span the other day, and all these
Washington "experts" were talking about how the Chinese are
out to get us, viewing everything they do, including investing
in US treasury bonds, to be a conspiracy against the US.  So
the right wing is promoting anti-China propaganda now.  Of
course, the SCO is a threat to the US in the region and is
meant to be, but deploying forces to surround US military
bases?  I will see what I can dig up.

Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:37:23 -0700
From: Lynette <>
Subject: Re: * Flash * China & Russia mobilize divisions to
surround U.S. bases

There are those who regard this person as an agent of
misinformation, yet in reading her postings, I have found her
to be accurate in some things.  One should probably use
discrimination in reading her articles. So whether she is an
agent of misinformation or disinformation, she certainly
writes things of interest.

From: "Westaway" <•••@••.•••>
Subject: China, Russia Issue Joint Statement on New World Order
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:56:34 -0700

China, Russia issue joint statement on new world order
Xinhua | July 15, 2005

China and Russia here Friday issued a joint statement on a new
world order in the 21st century, setting forth their common
stand on major international issues, such as UN reforms,
globalization, North-South cooperation, and world economy and

The statement was signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin
and visiting Chinese President Hu Jintao after their talks.

During their talks, the two leaders discussed ways to further
enhance the strategic and cooperative partnership between
China and Russia, and exchanged views on major regional and
international issues.

The joint statement said the two countries are determined to
strengthen their strategic coordination in international
affairs and promote peace, stability and prosperity of the


The joint statement says that UN reforms should be aimed at
strengthening the world body's leading role in international
affairs, improving its efficiency and increasing its potential
for dealing with new challenges and threats.

UN reforms should be based on consensus through consultations,
and should fully embody the common interests of the vast
number of member countries.

The United Nations is the world's most comprehensive,
representative and authoritative organization, and both its
role and function are irreplaceable, said the joint statement
on a new world order in the 21st century.

The United Nations should play a leading role in global
affairs and be the core for establishing and executing basic
norms of international law, the statement added.

The statement calls for UN peacekeeping operations to be
carried out in accordance with the tenets and principles of
the UN charter.

Resolutions of the UN Security Council must be strictly abided
by. Cooperation between the UN on the one hand and regional
and subregional organizations on the other should be
developed, according to the joint statement.

The joint statement also calls on the world body to play a
bigger role in the study of global economic and development


The joint statement says that countries must be allowed to
decide autonomously on their internal affairs while
international issues should be solved through dialogue and
consultations on the basis of multilateralism.

The international community should completely renounce the
mentality of confrontation and alliance; there should be no
pursuit of monopoly or domination of world affairs; and
countries of the world should not be divided into a leading
camp and a subordinate camp, said the joint statement.

Every country must be assured of the right to choose its own
path of development that fits its national realities, the
right to participate in international affairs as an equal, and
the right to development on an equal footing, it says.

Differences and disputes must be solved through peaceful means
rather than through unilateralism or coercion. There should be
no use or threatened use of force, says the joint statement.

Only on the basis of universally recognized tenents and norms
of international law, and under an impartial and rational
world order, can problems facing mankind be solved, says the

All countries should strictly observe the principles of mutual
respect for each other's sovereignty and territorial
integrity, mutual non-aggression, non-interference in each
other's internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit, and
peaceful coexistence, it says.

The joint statement believes that the world is undergoing a
historic change. The establishment of a new world order will
be a long and complicated process, it says.

The central task of mankind in the 21st century is to
safeguard peace, stability and security for the whole mankind,
and to realize full-scale coordinated development on the basis
of equality, maintenance of sovereignty, mutual respect,
mutual benefit and ensurance of good development prospects for
future generations.

Hu arrived here on Thursday for a state visit. He will also
visit Kazakhstan and Britain, where he will attend the G8 plus
five summit.


The joint statement calls on the international community to
establish a new security framework on the basis of mutual
trust, mutual benefit, equality and cooperation.

The framework should have the universally recognized norms of
international relations as its political foundation, and
mutually beneficial cooperation and common prosperity as its
economic foundation, says the joint statement.

The establishment of this framework should be based on the
equal security rights of all nations while dialogue,
consultation and negotiation on an equal footing should be the
means for settling conflicts and maintaining peace, the joint
statement says.

China and Russia support efforts to maintain global strategic
stability, and the multilateral process of establishing legal
systems on arms control, disarmament and non-proliferation, it

The two sides will work together to put the Comprehensive
Nuclear Test Ban Treaty into effect as soon as possible and to
push for the universality and effectiveness of the Treaty on
the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (INT), the Biological
Weapons Convention and the Convention on the Banning of
Chemical Weapons ( CWC).

They also call for the peaceful use of outer space, and voice
opposition to weapons deployment and arm races in outer space.
They push for relevant international legislation to this end.

The two leaders believe that in face of new threats and
challenges, further effective measures should be taken to
prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction
(WMDs) as well as their carriers and relevant materials,
according to the joint statement.

The joint statement says the two sides have decided to
cooperate more closely in related international organizations
and forums and expand cooperation with other like-minded
countries. The issue of proliferation of WMDs should be
resolved through political, diplomatic and international
cooperation within the framework of international law, says
the joint statement.

The two sides think that a UN-led global system should be set
up to deal with new threats and challenges on the basis of the
UN Charter and international law, it says.

The joint statement says regional integration is an important
character in the development of the current international

Open, non-exclusive regional organizations are playing a
positive role in shaping a new world order.

The two countries appeal for the promotion of further economic
cooperation in regional integration and for the establishment
of security cooperation mechanisms.

They also voice support for regional organizations to set up
ties with each other and produce an atmosphere of mutual trust
and cooperation, the joint statement says.


All countries should have an equal opportunity to enjoy the
profits of globalization in such fields as economy, society,
science, technology, information and culture, said the joint
statement, calling for mutually beneficial cooperation and
common development.

Developed countries and developing ones should make efforts to
eliminate discrimination in economic relations, and narrow the
gap of disparity between the rich and the poor, says the joint

The international community should formulate a comprehensive
economic and trade regime acceptable to all, through
negotiation on an equal footing. Pressure and sanctions should
not be used to force a country into unilaterally making
economic concessions, it says.

It also calls for respect for the history and traditions of
those countries with diverse ethnic groups and their efforts
to maintain national unity. Attempts to encourage secession or
incite ethnic hatred within a country should not be accepted.

Diversity in cultures and civilizations should not be the
source of conflict, but rather resources from which all
countries can learn.

Different historic backgrounds, cultures, social and political
systems, values and modes of development should not be used as
pretext for interference in other countries' internal affairs,
says the document.

The Chinese president arrived in Moscow Thursday for a state
visit, the first leg of his three-nation tour, which will also
take him to Kazakhstan and the United Kingdom.

In Kazakhstan, he will attend a Shanghai Cooperation
Organization summit. Then he will fly to Scotland for an
informal meeting between leaders of the Group of Eight
industrialized countries and five developing nations -- China,
India, Brazil, South Africa and Mexico.