-------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Macgregor" <•••@••.•••> To: <•••@••.•••> Subject: RE: The global-warming discussion: what are the lessons? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:24:45 +0100 Brilliant stuff, Richard. jim -------------------------------------------------------- From: •••@••.••• Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:49:06 EDT Subject: Re: The global-warming discussion: what are the lessons? To: •••@••.••• thanks richard for once again seeing the larger context. and writing with great gentleness. ---- Hi Jim, I don't think others perceive my style as being gentle. But thanks. I suppose you can say that because in our group days you've seen an even more aggressive side of me. the best richard -------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Tesler <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: The global-warming discussion: what are the lessons? Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:57:10 -0700 To: •••@••.••• Richard, I don't think the 'consensus' camp is an accurate portrayal of the scientific consensus. rkm> First there is the 'consensus camp', those who believe that global warming is the single greatest problem faced by humanity, Who calls it the "single greatest problem"? That's hyperbolic. But it's up there among the biggest problems we face. > that reducing carbon emissions is the solution, What climatologist says that reducing carbon emissions is the complete solution? > and that it can be achieved without changing the system as a whole. If we wait until the "system as a whole" is "changed" it will be too late. > Members of this camp tend to be angered by anyone who questions this position, and outraged at contrary pieces in the media. We are angry because the longer we bicker among ourselves, the more runway we give to good and bad capital to define the "solutions". Larry ---- Hi Larry, Thanks for writing, I appreciate your contributions. My three 'camps' refer to the general population, not to climatologists, leaders, etc.. You are correct that I exaggerated the qualities of the consensus camp a bit. Indeed one can complain about defining camps at all, as there are no precise boundaries, everybody is a complex being, etc. etc. If I had time to review and edit what I wrote, I would have toned down the definitions somewhat. But in terms of my overall thesis, regarding social divisiveness and co-option, these are really nit-picks, they don't invalidate my conclusions. When I said "single greatest problem", I was trying to get at something a bit more subtle. It would have been closer to the truth to say "single most important rallying cry". There's the feeling that we have a great opportunity now to 'do something useful', in the wake of Gore's film. We perceive that 'the masses' have woken up, and that 'politicians are listening'. I'm trying to point out, from my perspective, that these are illusions. Politicians are not 'listening', they're co-opting. Bickering among ourselves, or agreeing among ourselves, will not affect the outcome, the 'solutions'. Those have already been selected and are being pursued, to our detriment, and they will increase global warming. As I see it, the most dangerous form of denial is the belief that we can fix things piecemeal, without fixing the whole system. cheers, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: The global-warming discussion: what are the lessons? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:13:24 -0400 From: "Elisabeth Clark" <•••@••.•••> To: <•••@••.•••> Richard -- i haven't written for awhile, not for lack of interest rather just trying to get my mind around the magnitude of the radical restructuring of society that is required. clearly, the puppet-master elites will confuse the issue of 'necessary response' to climate change with their partial 'buy-ins' vis à vis Al Gore activities that are intended to divide and conquer in a way elites have always carried on. i thank you for developing the accessible new paradigm introducing the 3 camps: "consensus, big-picture and skeptic" as this is exactly the 'scorecard' needed to follow the developments. i'm providing a link to a CanWest News Service article depicting an elite attempt to invest in biofuels as a legitimate response. The project announces North America's largest biofuel production initiative developing at lightening speed. Amazing how quickly "an enviro project" can initiate with elite support. For the uninitiated there is not much daylight between Texas and Alberta concerning the supply and demand of energy development. Note that one of the financiers providing equity for the megaproject is The Carlyle Group, and elite control doesn't come much bigger than that. http://autos.canada.com/news/story.html?id=adba99f5-7b60-44b7-bb53-de2fb6b24acd -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:11:02 -0400 To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••> From: Tom Schley <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: The global-warming discussion: what are the lessons? Hi Richard, Here's something I heard last night on the Robert Redford Sundance TV Green Channel program. During a discussion focused on alternative fuels someone mentioned how much nuclear energy it would really require for the world to get away from using fossil fuels. Then they said something I'd not heard before. If we choose to use nuclear energy at this increased rate, then the world would run out of U-238 very quickly (I believe it was between 10 and 20 years). By their estimates nuclear power then, could only be a short term fix. In some ways that is rather heartening to hear. However, I doubt if the elites would go for using it up that quickly, rather wanting to continue the nuclear culture and need for increased security as long as possible. The program went on to say that any increase in the use of nuclear power is problematical in already overcrowded Europe. Best regards, Tom Schley -------- Hi Tom, Thanks for the information. If raising our voices is of value, we need to be raising them against the 'solutions' that are being offered for global warming, not raising them in support of the media-supported bandwagon around global warming. I think it is careless to say "If we choose to use nuclear...". That is implying we live in a democracy. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rex Green" <•••@••.•••> To: <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: The global-warming discussion: what are the lessons? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:56:49 -0700 Richard, I marveled at how you shaped the dialog on global warming to make it more understandable to the rest of us. If you keep this up, we should develop our own mental muscles to quickly discern how the wealthy elite operate to maintain control of the world economy and governments. May I suggest as the next topic, replacing the Internet with Internet2. I am attaching an article that illustrates how folks in the know start telling the rest of us what will be good for us, when it is really another nail in our coffin of rights and freedoms. Regarding how a highly regulated Internet2 will affect everyone's lives, I predict it will have more impact on how we live than global warming. My first reaction to this article was to imagine disappearing from my communities and do only things I can control each day. Why try to sneak around their information controls and just expose yourself as a potential terrorist. Certainly, not as many people will develop anxiety over this change in the Internet as over global warming. It seems more likely to steal up behind most of us, then just become part of our daily routine. Even when some of us are hauled away for torture, most of us will never hear about it happening. Frightening! Attached article: <http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WAT20070418&articleId=5423> -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:00:14 -0500 To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••> From: "A. Gayle Hudgens, PhD" <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: The global-warming discussion: what are the lessons? Richard, You no doubt spent a great deal of time composing your message on lessons learned from the recent discussion and I for one appreciate your thoughtfulness. I do not, however, agree with pigeon-holing people. The issues are complex enough that most of us vary in what we consider "the single greatest problem faced by humanity" and indeed whether there is a 'single' problem that can be said to be "the" greatest problem. Of the 3 camps you described I did not find one that fits me. We do indeed face great problems socially, ecologically, economically, politically, agriculturally, spiritually, and psychologically, to list a few challenges. Might it be wiser to be creating solutions for our total system of Nature and Society rather than getting bogged down in the problems and the details. We need a systems perspective not analysis paralysis for creating solutions. One way to begin to do that in this abrupt climate change interval is to consider the following questions in assessing the credibility of information and claims various people make with regard to global warming science: and technology: * Does the information come from peer-reviewed articles published in reputable scientific journals or reports? * Does the writer have expertise in the subject being discussed? * Is this demonstrated by the writer's list of publications or citation index? * Is the writer presenting the balance of evidence? ---- Hi Gayle, Thanks for writing. > I do not, however, agree with pigeon-holing people. My goal is to challenge people to examine their beliefs, and to look at things from a fresh perspective. Of course any categorization is approximate, but that doesn't mean it's not useful. It often aids analysis to have a 'first approximation' model, and then to look at variations from that approximation. > The issues are complex enough that most of us vary in what we consider "the single greatest problem faced by humanity" and indeed whether there is a 'single' problem that can be said to be "the" greatest problem. Of the 3 camps you described I did not find one that fits me. It seems to me that your words resonate fairly well with the 'big picture' camp: * Does the information come from peer-reviewed articles published in reputable scientific journals or reports? [...etc.] I do not subscribe to these criteria, particularly not for my own learning. The peer review process is entirely to conservative and too politically manipulated. Experts are entirely too myopic for today's problems. I get more value out of two articles each arguing a different side of an issue, rather than one 'balanced' article. cheers, richard -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:39:44 -0500 To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••> From: "A. Gayle Hudgens, PhD" <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: Perhaps I feel more urgency... [following an earlier exchange - rkm] rkm> I believe that analysis continues to be primary up until the point when people understand what they need to be doing. We have a philosophical disagreement, here, Richard. If you still have my book, Collaborative Spunk, take a glance at Chapter 3. It is my conviction that analysis dis-empowers. There is still a need for analysis, but synthesis and systems thinking is where we need to be right now. Otherwise we are taking far too much baggage with us from our pasts (among other things) to be able to create solutions. > Global warming activism is not one of those things, not any longer. That movement has now been co-opted totally. A classic case. We have no hope whatever of shifting the agenda, whatever it might be. I note your powerlessness in the above statements, Richard. In the 60s we also felt co-opted but did not let that stop us from pushing for the end of the Viet Nam war, women's rights, civil rights, environmental consciousness. While we did not succeed fully and the struggles continue, we did make some progress.... > And there's little point in 'raising awareness of the problem', when the governments say they're on your side. Raising awareness of the problem is part of the analysis/caught-in-the-details mindset, imo. My point. is not about the problem or raising awareness of it. My point is about creating solutions, offering people ways to envision a just, joyful and sustainable future along with the tools and strategies for getting there as rapidly as possible -- empowering them in the process. (Meaningful solutions to global warming represent a small but critical piece of the overall outcome. Those solutions, if based on what we know is required for sustainability, will also clean up many other problems we face, not just global warming, if you get my drift here.) Richard, our goals are probably quite similar. You've written that ultimately you, too, want a sustainable society. How well would a dialogue work for discovering where we agree on what it will take to reach that goal? A final note. Sometime email conveys tones that one does not wish to convey. I trust you can see that I am supportive of your efforts -- I just want them to be effective! Gayle ---- Hi again Gayle, I do take everything people send in as being supportive. Otherwise people wouldn't be subscribers and wouldn't bother. Gayle> It is my conviction that analysis dis-empowers. There is still a need for analysis, but synthesis and systems thinking is where we need to be right now. Otherwise we are taking far too much baggage with us from our pasts Analysis, synthesis, and systems thinking, along with this kind of dialog, have always been the equal pillars of my work, and continue to be so at every stage. As it turns out, my main 'message to the world' is not about analysis, but about the virtues of pursuing certain kinds of dialog, as a way to empower communities and create a democratic and sustainable world. I'm spending an increasing amount of my time in collaboration with various groups pursuing that positive vision. I also post things about that part of my work when the opportunity arises. But in general people on the list don't seem motivated to talk about the dialog stuff. As regards 'baggage from the past', I see a lot of that in the assumptions people have accumulated, in a lifetime of conditioning by schools and media, and out of life experiences channeled by capitalist economics. What I seek to do on the list, and have from the beginning, is to challenge some of those assumptions, and try to get people to turn on their independent thinking machinery. I think I've had some success in this endeavor, but the discussion is always at the leading edge, where new challenges are being laid down, and is therefore a bit contentious. We don't talk much about where we're in agreement. And in challenging assumptions, analysis is central. > I note your powerlessness in the above statements, ... Powerlessness, within the elite-defined context, is precisely what I'm trying to establish. Or perhaps I should call it hopelessness. It is from the realization of hopelessness, within your current boundaries, that new directions and new insights can emerge. As long as false hope is nurtured, one remains confined in ones boundaries, beating ones head against the same walls in the same way. > In the 60s we also felt co-opted but did not let that stop us from pushing for the end of the Viet Nam war, women's rights, civil rights, environmental consciousness. While we did not succeed fully and the struggles continue, we did make some progress.... This is the kind of assumption that needs challenging. It seems to me you are assuming what I would call a 'tug-of-war' model of reform. We tug, they tug, sometimes we make gains and sometimes they pull us back. We sometimes gain by playing the game, and if we didn't play at all, they'd pull us in the mud entirely. I was involved in those 60s movements. I went to marches and carried signs, passed petitions around the workplace, showed a radical film at the workplace, and there were miscellaneous other activities. In some sense it all culminated with the end of the war, the impeachment proceedings, Nixon resigning, and the achievement of the EPA, the Freedom of Information Act, etc. I thought we had accomplished a lot, and we were entering a new progressive era. Lots of other people felt the same way. Books were published based on those assumptions. But then came Reagan. How could that be, and so soon? Thus began the Great Unravelling, not only of the gains of the 60s, but the postwar gains, and now even the gains of 1776. This is a process that I've been watching very closely. It has caused me to abandon the tug-of-war model of reform and activism. I see instead a game of manipulation, where upsurges of popular will are skillfully managed and contained, and always the prerogative of elites to make policy remains unchallenged. We may force a policy change, but they write the new policy -- they 'give us' something of their choosing. And what they have given they can take away. Now that push is coming to shove, in terms of peak-resources, we are beginning to see just how much they can take away. Most of this I've been predicting for many years -- based on analysis and systems thinking, along with observation. In this context activism needs to be seriously reconsidered. Models from the 60s are baggage from the past. > My point is about creating solutions, offering people ways to envision a just, joyful and sustainable future along with the tools and strategies for getting there as rapidly as possible -- empowering them in the process. (Meaningful solutions to global warming represent a small but critical piece of the overall outcome. Those solutions, if based on what we know is required for sustainability, will also clean up many other problems we face, not just global warming, if you get my drift here.) Here we're in complete agreement. > Richard, our goals are probably quite similar. You've written that ultimately you, too, want a sustainable society. How well would a dialogue work for discovering where we agree on what it will take to reach that goal? I'd like to see more such dialog. cheers, richard -------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.A. "Omas" Schaefer" <•••@••.•••> To: <•••@••.•••> Subject: An Observation Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:58:39 -0400 The more I read of your subscribers, the more I realize that for many of them, global warming has become the primary means to the end of achieving social and economic change. If it were really about greenhouse emissions, they would be screaming bloody murder about the methane from grazing cattle and the dire need for all of us to become vegetarians. Apparently facts don't matter, but rather, the social/economic agenda. Nowhere in the arguments of your readers do I find evidence of intellectual honesty. Inevitably their arguments blame capitalism, industry, transportation, consumerism, etc. Where is the mention that grazing cattle that must be eliminated, a far bigger source of greenhouse emissions (if one cares to go by the facts). If a boat has multiple leaks, it stands to reason that the first leak to fix is the biggest one. It's not a matter of choice, but survival. If greenhouse emissions are actually a problem, then the intellectually honest approach would, by definition, be to plug the biggest leak and start by turning the entire planet into vegetarians. When will the activists in the global warming movement come to their senses and realize that they are being used as foot soldiers to do the bidding of the global elite? And in the end we'll all have to pay the price. A vote for global warming is a vote for the NWO. Gee thanks, folks, just what we need to make the world a better place. PS. The "consensus" of scientists is one of the biggest frauds I've ever seen. I'm increasingly in awe of the stature and numbers of "deniers" who are coming out of the closet. The latest is Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, a climatologist at MIT. He can be read in this week's Newsweek magazine. --- Hi Omas, I agree with you about scientific consensus being frequently a fraud, and not just regarding global warming. I posted Lindzen's article to newslog: Richard S. Lindzen: "Global Warming Fears Overblown" http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=2394&lists=newslog He was immediately attacked on the basis that he got funding from oil companies: Lindzen: Newsweek hides Ties to Big Oil http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=2402&lists=newslog This is of course irrelevant to his arguments, but if people want to reject something, they'll grab any easy reason they can find. I'm not saying I agree with Lindzen, I'm focusing on how different people respond to various views. I also posted an article about cows & greenhouse gases: UN Report on greenhouse gases: Cows worse than cars http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=2413&lists=newslog cheers, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sirius" <•••@••.•••> To: <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: The global-warming discussion: what are the lessons? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:00:32 +0100 Climate Change and the Sun Ed Arlt http://tinyurl.com/39n724 Never mind that the current trends in climate are nothing new to this planet and have been repeated over and over again in a very identifiable cyclic pattern for many many millions of years. What Gore and Clinton are not talking about is the evidence that climate, volcanism, tectonic activity, cratering, and magnetic reversals may all be correlated. The evidence amassed from geological history shows irrefutably that there is a 14.1 million year cycle to the appearance of large craters on this planet, to tectonic movement, to sea level changes, and to magnetic reversals. The magnetic reversals coincide (every 28 million years) with the mass extinctions evidenced in the fossil record of the earth...just like a clicking clock (or bomb). And all of this coincides with the passage of our solar system through the galactic plane and again as we reach the furthest point away from the plane when we reverse direction and head the other way (the 14.1 million year cycle). All the planets in our solar system are presently showing signs of increased temperature. Our solar system (and the earth with it) is presently passing through the galactic plane. ---<snip - see URL above for more - rkm>--- ------- Hi Sirius, The fact that all the planets are heating up is something we shouldn't be ignoring. This fact alone calls into question the validity of the so-called scientific consensus around carbon emissions. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:56:38 -0700 From: Philip Feeley <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: Reader dialog to 13 April To: •••@••.••• I know I wrote about Michael Chrichton's "State of Fear", but I didn't really believe him - even with all his footnotes. I've recently picked up George Monbiot's "Heat", and I find it much more sensible. I'll be searching for more solution oriented works from now on. Cheers, Phil ----- Hi Phil, Just make sure they really are solutions and not palliatives. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:25:16 -0700 From: •••@••.••• Subject: Re: Reader dialog to 13 April To: •••@••.••• rkm> Our 'democratic societies' have evolved over the past two centuries as the most efficient systems of controlling populations that have ever existed. Instead of secret police we have propaganda, the monetary system, and the myth of democracy. We are born into this system and all apparent avenues of change are carefully managed against us. The prisoner is not the warden; we are not the government. yes, and we can change the "monetary system" by creating our own community currencies (cc), not as AN alternative, but as a multicurrency complement - by doing so, we can then develop indi media such that it becomes mainstream and achieve the holy grail of direct democracy. --<snip>-- i'm surprised that you are unable to see the potential of community currencies to provide us with this essential tool to free ourselves - perhaps you haven't taken it seriously enough or maybe you, like most others, are unable to see what it means. Latest open money material: from Eric and Ellen Harris-Braun http://dev.openmoney.info/om.info see Eric's software developments... http://dev.openmoney.info/om.info/techne/index.html try it out... http://alpha.openmoney.info/om.cgi -------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Greco -- thg" <•••@••.•••> To: "CIRC" <•••@••.•••> Subject: New reference source Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:35:22 -0700 Memo to: All From: Thomas H. Greco, Jr. I wish to inform you that I have written a research guide on my specialty, complementary currencies, that has been published by Fields of Knowledge at: The Infography about Community Currencies http://www.infography.com/content/507632641358.html The Infography appears to be a very good reference resource on a wide range of topics, and I suggest that you consult it when doing research on any subject and consider adding the following link to your blogs and web pages: The Infography: Research Recommendations from Professors, Librarians, and Other Subject Specialists http://www.infography.com/infographysearch.html I also invite you to keep tabs of developments and information posted on my blogs. Regards, Tom -------------------------------------------------------- From: "Diana Jewell" <•••@••.•••> To: "'Richard Moore'" <•••@••.•••> Subject: FW: The global-warming discussion: what are the lessons? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:47:38 -0700 "We have met the enemy, and he is us." Like the famous Pogo quotation, the CyberJournal series on issues involved in the global-warming phenomenon has exemplified a similarly penetrating view of our social predicament. And as in Pogo's case, with global-warming the enemy truly is US. Richard has provided superb facilitation and analysis in guiding this process, and the impressive mix of collective wisdom and passion have undoubtedly raised the levels of understanding and commitment of all who have participated, whether as contributors or readers. However, I wish to respectfully challenge the group to better understand their own positions, and those who are opposing or leading (or misleading) them. In general, I am in very close agreement with Richard, but I would suggest that his commitment to being a moderate moderator may have steered the discussion away from important issues of a more confrontational and divisive nature that are just too important to ignore. But before going there, let me recognize that there can surely be no disagreement that all human practices producing ecological damage should be minimized as soon as possible and as much as is reasonable [i.e. without causing involuntary depopulation or driving modern societies back to pre-industrial standards of living]. Further, the precautionary principle, sustainability and stewardship should be rigorously applied. Of course these principles address the panoply of ecological devastation caused by current practices of development, and if they would be adopted worldwide, the issue of global-warming should be effectively dealt with. At this point, however, the primary fixation of our time is with the 'hot button' issue of global-warming. Until now, the environmental movement, which has rapidly emerged within the First-world middle classes of the past generation or two, has been only minimally successful, with only token victories from its struggles to gain the attention of the political classes and the broader public, and the corporate class that always controls the capitalist system [i.e. the Matrix]. But suddenly the public mind has become bombarded by media coverage stoking the global-warming fires of hysteria--while politicians and corporations have miraculously embraced this new religion, and are exploiting green-wash strategies to their strong advantage. To many of the most vociferous exponents of the global-warming hysteria, the reasons to exploit the FEAR factor far outweigh any questions regarding the veracity of the scientific issues. To the committed environmentalist, it is a matter of creed and an unprecedented lever of opportunity to perhaps save the planet and at least make it a much better place. To the born-again green politician, it may be even more effective and at least more principled than wrapping oneself in the flag; besides, it's a powerful diversion from the more intractable problems of class, imperialism and capitalism. For the capitalist, it's a chance to improve the corporate image while benefiting from massive new public spending and profit opportunities. For the environmental scientist, it's a windfall opportunity for research funding, career advancement, and a chance to play a much more prominent and respected role in perhaps saving the world or at least helping to preserve it for future generations and other species. For the corporate media mouthpiece, it's a chance to perform a most worthy and important public service, and a welcome relief from the steady diet of political lies, war reports and school shootings etc. From this vantage point, it's obvious that there is no comparable constituency for neutrality or objectivity on the issue of global-warming [even BP is now proud to proclaim its plan to become our energy provider "Beyond Petroleum"]. Hence, it would seem that there's no reason for any of us to question the strong consensus on global-warming that has been swiftly manufactured by the political and media classes. If the fear of global-warming is grounded in reality, then it will truly be the greatest crisis ever confronted by humankind [unless we stumble upon some quicker way to destroy ourselves and the planet]. But even if it is just another over-hyped fear [how did we ever live through Y2K?], then at least anything positive that we do will make the world better. Either way, the best solution for all is to act decisively to mitigate or prevent the potential disaster of global-warming. The fear factor may or may not be exaggerated, but it's motivational power should at least produce very positive results, and might actually be essential if humankind is to save itself from itself. Which brings us back to Pogo's revelation: "We have met the enemy, and he is us." Let's get serious and really believe that us really means US, all of us -- even we who are so enlightened and privileged to be participating in this CyberJournal dialogue. And let us reflect upon whether our share of the blame is just related to our lifestyles, or whether it also includes our inadequate understanding of the forces involved, and inability to mobilize ourselves and others to the most effective social response to the dangers we face. While sweeping generalizations are always somewhat exaggerated, we, and perhaps more particularly those less enlightened members of our class, have well earned the designation of being the enemy of those innocent people and species who suffer under what people of the privileged classes have inflicted upon them. And we enlightened ones have not done anything even remotely adequate to absolve ourselves from the collective blame that we must justly bear. Richard's analysis of the three 'camps' into which the public perception of global-warming may be categorized is a fine example of his usual brilliance! However, while probing the collective psyches of each camp, he has refrained from any serious criticisms without which WE [i.e. the enlightened, caring and privileged minority] will never be able to get our collective acts together to save us from either THEM [the elite rulers, i.e. the main enemy] or US [i.e. the unwittingly complicit enemy]. With most of the population divided between the 'consensus camp' (mostly liberals) and 'skeptic camp' (mostly conservatives), this mirrors the manufactured political schism which has enabled elite rule to dominate the people under the guise of democracy. Elections in western liberal democracies are typically a choice between 'heads' where they win and 'tails' where we-the-people lose. The 'consensus camp' may even be its own worst enemy, and certainly the worst enemy of the broader progressive activist movement. The progressive activist movement has its origins and primary focus in social justice. It recognizes the importance of the environmental movement and the causes for which it fights--but it accurately sees these to be parallel consequences, in the natural domain, to those it confronts in the social domain; it recognizes the capitalist system of exploitation to be the root cause of all abuses of nature as well as humanity. The core of the 'consensus camp' are the 'tree huggers'. In using this term of disparagement arising primarily from the 'skeptics camp', the intent is not to offend those who love trees and the environment--but rather to challenge them to ask themselves whether they love nature more than they love people. However, the fundamental problem with the 'consensus camp' is not so much the question of misplaced priorities-but rather that it has always been and firmly remains issue oriented. Indeed, the environmental movement generally needs to become remobilized to address each cause that comes along. While most of its leading advocates recognize that their issue-based causes are all related manifestations of the capitalist system, and also the existence of parallel social problems for which other progressive activists have long been fighting, the leaders of both camps do nothing constructive to bring both camps together to wage a unified campaign in common cause against their/our common enemy. Environmentalism, which emerged long after the rise of social activism [i.e. organizationed labor, humanitarian organizations, socialism, etc.], has historically served as a highly effective emotional and organizational instrument to divide and conquer public opposition to the ravages of the capitalist system. Indeed there are some who suspect this to have been one if not the most important intention of its moneyed patrons, who through their foundations have provided a base of funding from its inception. In any case, this relationship is undoubtedly well understood by ruling elites, and it is long overdue for environmentalists to recognize this fact, and the extent to which their most worthy intentions are regularly and so profoundly exploited by ruling elites. Environmentalism has become the primary arena of political activism within the so-called western liberal democracies, and as such, has effectively served to prop up the undemocratic system of elite rule, and protect it from the risk that enlightened activists might focus public attention and pressure on meaningful democratic reform that might enable the people to gain sovereign control over the economy rather than being condemned to fighting one another in the hope of becoming its wage slaves. Even more sadly, environmentalism is an addiction of only the privileged classes within the privileged countries. Not surprisingly, the less fortunate classes can hardly afford to expend their time, resources and hopes on something that does not improve their immediate condition. This allows privileged environmentalists to feel more self-righteous in dedicating themselves to causes without immediate social benefit. But in failing to fix the system itself, their fine and well-intentioned efforts condemn the underclasses to further exploitation and hopelessness. In coming down so hard on environmentalism and environmentalists, please understand that I'm not suggesting that environmentalism or environmentalists are bad, or even wrong. Indeed, the altruism of environmentalism and environmentalists deserve our great respect. The problem is that, in the world we're living in -- i.e. the Matrix -- there is a systemic perversion which renders environmentalism and environmentalists both wrong-headed and antithetical to their own proclaimed interests. It is in this context that I return to the Pogo truism as it applies in our situation: "We have met the enemy, and he is us." In this view, the primary concern for enlightened activism is to try to find a way for the environmental and social activist camps to come together. They are clearly facing a common enemy, and divided they are surely being defeated. At this point, it is only the social activists who are clear on who and what the real enemy is, and have some commitment [clearly declining] to a not very unified effort to fight that enemy. As such, the prospect for success of enlightened activism seems now to be marginal, but we must continue to work both harder and smarter. This is why it's not enough for the two enlightenment activist camps to continue with polite and semi-respectful co-existence. That would be complicity in our remaining divided and conquered -- a state of impotence that ruling elites will undoubtedly use all means at their disposal to perpetuate. To extend on Richard's analysis, what the 'consensus camp' should recognize is that they have not won--they are being used. It is not the truth or the merit of their case that has persuaded elites to change course--it is the power of the global-warming issue to create FEAR and to divert the attention of both enlightened activists and the general public. As the so-called war on terror clearly demonstrates, the primary goal of elite rule is not to win the war, but to maintain public anxiety at a highest possible level of FEAR, without end, regardless of the actual level of danger. And for the thinking public, who cannot be controlled by the fear of terror which they recognize to be vastly exaggerated, the fear of global-warming is the ideal complementary scare to control the public mind and public debate. All to protect elite rule from any form of effective democracy, by diverting public attention from the real cause onto the 'hot button' issue, and preoccupation with the urgent need for bandaids rather than real remedies for the relentless disease from which we are suffering. If the 'consensus camp' comes to recognize these truths, they may also recognize that their efforts would be better focused on sharing such insights with their fellow citizens in the 'skeptics camp', rather than trying to persuade them of the correctness of their eco-fundamentalist beliefs. The only 'religious' belief that people need to guide them in this world is that elite rule serves elite interests at the expense of both the people and the planet. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Escaping the Matrix website: http://escapingthematrix.org/ cyberjournal website: http://cyberjournal.org Community Democracy Framework: http://cyberjournal.org/DemocracyFramework.html Subscribe cyberjournal list: •••@••.••• (send blank message) Posting archives: http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/ Moderator: •••@••.••• (comments welcome)