Are you Green?… Don’t try to fly…


Richard Moore

    "Of course the people don't want war...that is
    understood.  But, after all, it is the leaders of the
    country who determine the policy, and it's always a
    simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a
    democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or
    a communist dictatorship.  Voice or no voice, the
    people can always be brought to the bidding of the
    leaders. That is easy.  All you have to do is tell them
    they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for
    lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.
    It works the same in any country." 
        --Hermann Goering, Adolf Hitler's Deputy Chief and
          Luftwaffe Commander, at the Nuremberg trials, 1946. 
          From "Nuremberg Diary" by GM Gilbert


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Below is one of the many chilling stories I've seen describing 
personal experiences with the USA's new Gestapo regime.  Tomorrow
I'll send out comments people sent in about "2003 - year of 
The Apocalypse".

Watch your back,

From: •••@••.•••
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 10:57:07 EST
To: •••@••.•••
CC: •••@••.•••
From: •••@••.•••
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 10:54:05 EST
Subject: if true, this is chilling. former nader campaign official 
         on plane no-fly list

this was sent to me today.

Green Party Official Grounded and Labeled "Terrorist"
in Living Nightmare
Writing about his no-fly nightmare in the Fairfield
County Weekly, art dealer Doug Stuber, who had run
Ralph Nader's Green Party presidential campaign in
North Carolina in 2000, was pulled out of a boarding
line and grounded. He was about to make an important
trip to Prague to gather artists for Henry James Art in
Raleigh, N.C., when he was told (with ticket in hand)
that he was not allowed to fly out that day.

Asking "why not?" he was told at Raleigh-Durham airport
that because of the sniper attacks, no Greens were
allowed to fly overseas on that day. The next morning
he returned, and instead of paying $670 round trip, was
forced into a $2,600 "same day" air fare. But what
happened to Stuber during the next 24 hours is

Stuber arrived at the airport at 6 a.m. and his first
flight wasn't due out until nearly six hours later. He
had plenty of time. At exactly 10:52 a.m., just before
boarding was to begin, he was approached by police
officer Stanley (the same policeman who ushered him out
of the airport the day before), who said that he
"wanted to talk" to him. Stuber went with the police
officer, but reminded him that no one had said he
couldn't fly, and that his flight was about to leave.

Officer Stanley took Stuber into a room and questioned
him for an hour. Around noon, Stanley had introduced
him to two Secret Service agents. The agents took full
eye-open pictures of Stuber with a digital camera. Then
they asked him details about his family, where he
lived, who he ever knew, what the Greens are up to,

At one point during his interrogation, Stuber asked if
they really believed the Greens were equal to al Qaeda.
Then they showed him a Justice Department document that
actually shows the Greens as likely terrorists -- just
as likely as al Qaeda members. Stuber was released just
before 1 PM, so he still had time to catch the later

The agents walked Stuber to the Delta counter and asked
that he be given tickets for the flight so that he
could make his connections. The airline official
promptly printed tickets, which relieved Stuber, who
assumed that the Secret Service hadn't stopped him from
flying. Wrong! By the time Stuber was about to board,
officer Stanley once again ushered him out the door and
told him: "Just go to Greensboro, where they don't know
you, and be totally quiet about politics, and you can
make it to Europe that way."

In Greensboro, after Stuber showed his passport he was
told that he could not fly overseas or domestically.
Undeterred, he next traveled an hour-and-a-half to
Charlotte. Of course, at Charlotte the same thing
happened: "Get this terrorist out of here" was the mode
the cops were in. Then Stuber drove three hours to his
home after 43 hours of trying to catch a flight.

Stuber concluded that the Greens, whose values include
nonviolence, social justice, etc., are now labeled
terrorists by the Ashcroft-led Justice Department.

Blacklist Catch-22

Questions about how one gets on a no-fly list creates
questions about how to get off it. This is a classic
Catch-22 situation. The TSA says it compiles the list
from names provided by other agencies, but it has no
procedure for correcting a problem. Aggrieved parties
would have to go to the agency that first reported
their names. But for security reasons, the TSA won't
disclose which agency put someone on the no-fly list.

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