Columbine : 101 witnesses can’t be wrong

2007-04-20

Richard Moore

Original source URL:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/columbineeight.php

Columbine : 101 witnesses can't be wrong

According to the final report of the investigation, only two people--Eric 
Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17--planned and executed the mass shooting at 
Columbine High School outside Littleton, Colorado, on April 20, 1999, leaving 15
dead and 23 wounded. But at least 101 eye- and ear- witnesses remembered it 
differently:

1) Chris Wisher, sophomore (1261) He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, 
and wearing black trench coats. A 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans was 
seen throwing bombs onto the roof.

2) Jake Apodaca, sophomore (653) He was at the soccer field, heard firecrackers.
He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, wearing black trench coats and 
black T-shirts. A 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans was seen throwing 
bombs onto the roof.

3) Jonathan Cole, freshman (749) He noticed two tall guys in black trench coats.
He then saw a third male, wearing a white T-shirt and blue jeans. This person 
looked over to the other two suspect, and yelled "GO!! GO!!".

4) William Arapkiles, freshman (660) He states that he was at the soccer field, 
and heard firecrackers. He turned and saw 3 people near the West entrance. Two 
were wearing black trench coats, and carrying guns. The third was wearing a 
white T-shirt, and no visible gun. The person in the white T-shirt was pacing 
back and forth about 5' away from the two gunmen.

5) Channel 7 News at 12pm(noon) on 4-20 (EP 21-244) "Reporter said that numerous
witnesses he spoke to who were not named said they saw 3 gunmen."

6) Lindsay Elmore, junior (332)"I believe there were 3 gunmen." (340) "...there 
was so much movement that Elmore thought there was more than two people."

7) ACSO Nelson (8810) "... a list of 3 names that the 12 witnesses ID'd from a 
yearbook were turned over to ACSO investigators to forward."

8) Jason Baer, sophomore (1759) Hid in greenroom off science hall "I heard more 
than two people yelling to each other saying 'over here' and stuff."

9) Anthony Sammauro, freshman (5071) "Tony stated that two suspects came in the 
front door and one came in the side door."

10) Erik Sunde, freshman (4576) Saw two gunmen downstairs near cafeteria, runs 
upstairs and sees another person in trenchcoat in front of library doors.

11) Jon Curtis, staff (2286) Describes 3 attackers.

12) Richard Olejniczak, father of students Alicia and Sarah (5070) "Richard then
asked this Investigator what information had been obtained reference any other 
participants. Richard stated that while he was at Lea Wood Elementary School, 
waiting for information about his two daughters, he talked with two girls who 
came from the school. The girls said they had seen two guys in the cafeteria, 
wearing all black. There were also two guys who entered the main door from the 
parking lot. One was in black, the other in white. The girls said they all had 
guns.

13) Adam Campbell, senior (732) Walked out of school at 11:20am(immediately 
before shooting) on 4-20 and saw Harris in the parking lot with 2 or 3 other 
guys, wearing a white T-shirt and a backward baseball cap.

14) Matt Katzenmeier, sophomore (5745) Saw 4 subjects carrying bags in, 
according to Darlene Mesch.

15) Alicia Maes, sophomore (22755) Saw 4 people with trenchcoats and guns, 
according to Rachel Nelson.

16) Natalie Baker, freshman (2583) Told her mother there were 2 other shooters 
besides Harris and Klebold.

17) Jennifer Tindall, sophomore (1226) Sees 2 suspects, neither of which is 
Harris and Klebold.

18) Ryan Ezzie, sophomore (2967) Saw 4 people outside with hats on backwards. On
20612, he says he "...saw at least 4 parties dressed in black standing calmly 
when others were running."(by the school library)

19) Jordan Grimm, freshman (22432) According to Jordan's aunt, he saw Harris and
Klebold and 2 others together ouside school just before the incident began.

20) John Spahlinger (1176) Clement Park maintenance worker, "a majority of the 
students Spahlinger helped informed him there had been a trench coat mafia gang 
shooting over at the high school and that there were 4 shooters involved."

21) Thornton/NorthglennPD SWAT Team (EP 9-34) At 11:35pm on 4-20(12 hours later)
the team enters CHS for another search. "We were advised that 2 
suspects(shooters) might still be in the school."

22) Littleton PO Mike Eyman (8670) Advised that "there were possibly 4 suspects 
in the school."

23) Nathan Dykeman, senior (trenchcoat mafia associate) "...anyway yes there 
were 2 more people in the school with handguns but they decided to bail.... eric
and dylan went threw with it and the other 2 did not...

24) (8894) "Daphne Baca had listed 4 names of possible suspects. Those names 
included Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Chris Morris, and Robert Perry."

25) Trista Fogerty, freshman (23144) "Trista said she believes, as do most other
students, that there were more than 4 people involved in shooting."

26) J. Adams (7422) Construction worker near CHS; he refers to a black BMW and a
small tan car drive down his cul-de-sac, followed five minutes later by the 
sound of bombs. A co-worker says the BMW was filled with 4 teenagers, the tan 
car which followed it had 2 people in it. (7430)

27) Gary Talocco, teacher (8876) He says that the school roof repairman saw 3 
people exit vehicle with Harris and Klebold. Tan vehicle followed them into the 
lot.

28) Dick Strange (1194) "It was at approximately 11:45am that Strange first 
observed 4 to 5 individuals, all dressed in black trench coats, standing 
alongside Columbine High School in the vicinity of the gymnasium."

29) Patrick Vassar, freshman (4691) Sees 4-5 individuals at 11:15am dressed in 
black walk away from the school, all wearing trench coats, except one, who was 
wearing cami pants.

30) Seth Biggi, junior (2475) Was told by Courtney Shakowski she saw 4 to 5 
tenchoat mafia members enter cafeteria with a big, black duffel bag.

31) Devon Adams, sophomore (10614) Names 3 (Redacted) names as being directly 
involved in the Columbine shooting--they are not Harris and Klebold.

32) Boulder PD SWAT Timeline (8245) 2130 hours: "2 suspects believed dead 
inside, 1 arrest, 1-2 other supects/associates."

33) Julie Thomas, passerby eyewitness (ACSO 808) That on 042099 at about 0755 
hours, Julie turned onto Polk St. from Pierce St. and saw a small 
brownish/golden truck parked on the south side of Polk St. 5 male teens around 
it. At least three of them are wearing black trench coats.

34) Pat McDuffee, trenchcoat mafia associate (10786) A member of the trenchcoat 
mafia names 5 people in the attack group. Says another 5 helped plan the attack 
and helped provide guns and bombs.

35) Melissa Chavez (9023) Met Harris and Klebold and 4 other boys at the mall. 
They showed her a map of where they would bomb the school.

36) Tim Kastle, senior (3416) Tells police of 5 suspects.

37) Pam Wood (8902) Got call at work in Pennys at South West Plaza from students
trapped in school. One saw 6 trenchcoats and that all were shooting handguns.

38) Amy Terry, sophomore (2207) Was told by friend Elisha Encinias that she was 
in the commons when trench coaters with masks on came in shooting. Running 
upstairs, she sees 4 people in trenchcoats coming in through the glass doors at 
the west end of the main hallway.

39) Bryan Frye, sophomore (806) While crawling past the admin office(where he 
had just heard gunshots), he saw 5 or 6 persons all dressed in black.

40) LFD Capt. Mike Gorman (EP 1-335) "Capt. Gorman told me the only information 
was that there were 5 to 6 shooters from the Trench Coat Mafia."

41) JCSO Kevin Walker (EP 1-223) "Dep. Walker related the communications center 
advised there were approximately 6 gunmen, dressed in black."

42) JCSO Vincent DiManna (EP 1-363) At 11:35am, JeffCo. Lt. Manwaring "advised 
him there were as many as 7 gunmen inside the cafeteria and commons area."

43) CBSNews.com, 4-19-2001 "They(the cops) believed that they really had 6 to 8 
armed individuals inside there."

44) Adam Campbell, senior (732) Says fellow student Jessica Cave says she saw 10
shooters at the school(Jessica herself was not interviewed).

What did the ear witnesses hear? Numerous students heard gunshots/explosions in 
different parts of the school simultaneously. Which of course probably meant 
more than two shooters, as Harris and Klebold were officially together almost 
the entire time. To wit:

45) Sara Houy, sophomore (380) Heard bombs in cafeteria below, while shooters 
were inside library, exploding bombs.

46) Josh Lapp, sophomore (480) Heard gunfire in other parts of the school while 
attack on library is going on.

47) Brandi Wiseman, sophomore (4751) Caught in one of the rooms off the kitchen,
hears gunshots, bombs and screaming coming from cafeteria and library.

48) Holly Pinkham, sophomore (1620) Says friend Don Goin had his shoe shot off 
while in middle hall, while gunshots were going off in cafeteria.

49) Matt Katzenmeier, sophomore (3424) Heard shots and explosions inside the 
school at the same time there are 2 suspects outside.

50) Alex Babiniec, freshman (1954) "He thought the explosions were coming from 
the level he was on and from downstairs at the same time."

51) Drew Lagerborg, junior (1999) Ran west down south hallway, there was a 
gunman at end of that hallway. Ran to north hallway, he heard a shooter down 
that hallway as well.

52) Josh Brinkley, sophomore (2528) Heard shots downstairs, then different shots
upstairs(from two guns).

53) Jay Gallantine, staff (3086) Sees gunman by library then runs downstairs 
where he hears more gunshots "all this time hearing shots all around me and 
above me."

54) Lindsay Wyant, sophomore (4799) Heard shots in cafeteria and library at same
time.

55) Evan Todd, sophomore (8826) Heard bombs in other parts of the building while
Harris and Klebold were in library.

56 and 57) Diwata Perez and Jessica Holliday, seniors (9923) Heard gunshots 
elsewhere while shooters were in library.

Among the best evidence are witnesses who actually identified other participants
by name.

58) Crystal Archuleta, junior (EP1-197) "...she did see one person throw a pipe 
bomb. .....She told me at the time she thought it was Robert Perry."

59) Seth Dubois, freshman (EP21-125) "...Seth told Katherine(Carlston) that 
Robert Perry was seen shooting a girl in the back while leaving the library."

60) Wade Allen Frank, senior (EP1-91) "Mr. Frank told me that he thought 
origonally one of the individuals(shooting) was someone by the name of 
Robert..." "He stated that the person was tall, approximately 6'3" and kind of 
ackward(sic) and gangly."

61) Bryan Frye, sophomore (EP25-69) "He stated that the person he had previously
believed this shooter to be was Robert Perry. .....In a previous interview, 
after receiving his yearbook, he had told his father that he believed the 
shooter to be Robert Perry. He also stated that the gunman had bad acne."

62) Courtney Haulman, freshman (EP25-91) "There was three guys. The guy I 
remember most was the main guy. He's over 6' tall and has long curly 
dark-colored hair. He was wearing a trench coat. His name is Robert Perry."

63) Lacey Hohn, freshman (EP1-186) "...can you identify or descibe who was 
shooting? ....Ms. Hohn said that she does not believe it was Harris or Klebold. 
Ms. Hohn believes it was an individual named Robert."

64) Bijen Monty, junior (EP1-110) "I asked her if she saw the source of the 
shooting. She told me she saw who she thought, at the time, was Robert Perry 
with a gun hanging around his neck. She said she never actually saw him shoot 
the weapon. "She asked me if I had any information in regards to Robert Perry. I
informed her I did not."

65) Tessa Nelson, freshman (EP1-113) "I asked her if she saw the source of the 
shots. She said she saw a male, who she thought was Robert Perry, wearing boots,
dark jeans with dark hair, walking down the stairs outside the cafeteria. She 
said the male suspect pulled a gun and started shooting."

66) Katelyn Sue Place, freshman (EP21-285) Kate said, "It was (Redacted). I'm 
almost positive of it. I remember looking him dead in the eye. He was in my 
debate class..... . ...Dylan kind of looked like Robert, but Dylan doesn't have 
the long face. Robert's teeth are messed up and he was smiling and I saw his 
teeth then. Kate said that she has since seen pictures of Dylan Klebold and Eric
Harris, and she said, "It's not one of them."(Referring to the person she saw 
shooting out on the outside commons.) "She remembers him shooting Ann 
Marie(Hochalter). .... Robert was just randomly shooting. ...Robert was still 
shooting. ....Kate said that Robert shot Ann Marie before he smiled at Kate. 
....She looked and saw Jason(Autenrieth) trying to help Ann Marie, dragging her 
away from Robert, to the side."

67) Lacey Smith, junior (4470) "On the diagram she depicts (Redacted) as walking
in through the doors, past where she was sitting, and going in about as far as 
they north end of the school store. It was at that time she heard the windows 
breaking and then realized she was hearing shots. "....she did not have any 
trouble indentifying PERRY when he walked past her. I asked SMITH how sure she 
was that the person she saw and spoke with was (Redacted). I asked, "90 percent 
sure? 50 percent sure?" Her response was "100 percent sure." I then showed SMITH
a photo lineup which included a picture of Dylan KLEBOLD, and asked her if the 
person who walked past her was in the lineup. She stated he was NOT in the 
lineup. .....As (Redacted) passed her and was near the commons area of the 
cafeteria, she then explained that (Redacted) pulled a weapon out from under his
trench coat and started firing into the cafeteria.

68) Brenton Hooker, junior (16397) "....he turned around and observed an 
individual he thought was ROBERT PERRY(ex-student of Columbine High School) 
standing outside the door just to the north of the main entrance shooting a 
pistol in his direction...." ....HOOKER described the individual he thought was 
PERRY as 6'8" - 6'11" in height, very skinny, tight black pants, black trench 
coat..."

69) Tiffany Lien, freshman (968) "Lien stated she believed gunman number one was
(Redacted).... ...Lien stated that she was approximately twenty to twenty-five 
feet away from gunman number one and looked at him face to face for 
approximately 25 seconds, frozen in her tracks." Tall male had long black trench
coat, black jeans, dark brown hair. His hair was kind of long and had curls. He 
was skinny and his shoulders kind of hunched over. ...She also stated that the 
gunman had bad acne.

70) Kristen Long, senior (20245) "Long said suspect definitely had dark hair and
a large nose, thought it might be (Redacted)."

71) Rusty Shyler, junior (5464) "The individual was very tall. ...Shyler saw his
face partially and thought based upon his dress and size that it may have been 
(Redacted). He was a hundred percent sure it was (Redacted). He described 
(Redacted) as being 6'6" to 6'7" tall and having lots of zits."

72) Chris Thierren, sophomore (1207) Saw a tall shooter with acne, large nose, 
shoulder-length hair. "He stated that the picture he saw was of (Redacted) and 
he was 'pretty sure' he was the shooter he saw that morning at CHS."

73) Erin Walton, sophomore (4139) "Erin Walton said she knew one of the 
shooters, and that he not one of (the) two Eric and Dylan. ...he was a senior 
named (Redacted). and he was very tall, had bad acne scars on his cheeks.... "

74) Chris Wisher, sophomore (9832) "....he recognized one of the shooters--the 
other shooter was the kid wearing black that was arrested and placed in cuffs 
and put inside a black police car. He said that he is 100% positive that he was 
the male that shot at him." "Thought he recognized Chris Morris as being one of 
the shooters.... ...on the west side of the cafeteria."(EP6-265)

75) Ashley Egelund, freshman (22671) "Ashley was in north corridor when she 
observed (Redacted) and Eric Harris coming around the corner from the 
library.... She said Chris Morris was armed with a handgun while Harris was 
armed with a shotgun.(5248 ) ....both started shooting at Ashley.... Ashley did 
not know (Redacted) at first but she saw his picture in the yearbook and is 
positive it was (Redacted).

76) Leiha Murphy, sophomore (3828) In the cafeteria, notices commotion outside 
north-west door. "I saw a guy I recognized as (Redacted). He was running... 
(Joe)Stair had his blond hair down. It's past his shoulders. He's about 6', 
tall, skinny, he was wearing a long black trench coat.... I saw nothing in his 
hands. He was observed a short distance from whatever was going on at the door. 
My thought was that (Redacted) was involved if there was a fight." Stair named 
in the cafeteria map(3830). Leiha also immediately picked him out of a photo 
lineup. "I ask Leiha if she was certain that this individual was (Redacted). 
Leiha said "Oh yeah, I'm certain.... I saw his face full on. I remember seeing 
his face completely....(she said he stood in place for about 15 seconds)....I 
remember him graduating last year." She remembers him wearing 'makeup on his 
face and hand' and that because of that, he stood out from other students." " 
(3836) Also, at least four ear- witnesses heard the suspects refer to one of 
their number as "Joe."(Encinas, 2943, Herivel, 1927, McKenna, 3525, and Salazar,
EP21-224)

77) Cara Sander, sophomore (EP25-203) Describes gunman as pudgy, overweight, 
very full face, thick bushy eyebrows. IDs him as (Redacted), who is heavy-set 
with a round face, short dark hair and dark eyebrows. A copy of the CHS yearbook
page with Brian Sargent's photo is included in her interview. [John 
Ungerland(1701) says Brian Sargent has a round chubby face and is a big guy with
bushy eyebrows. He saw him that morning at school; Sargent was wearing a short 
sleeve white button-up shirt-a polo type.]

78) Jason Brehm, sophomore (719) One of the shooters had a very round face, 
shorter than 5'11". Not Harris or Klebold.

79) Mindy Pollock, freshman (10009) Sees one gunman outside west entrance, 
holding a gun on the fence. ...Dressed in a "white dress-type shirt", short 
brown hair, with a "little bit of a gut". "POLLOCK stated she recognized the 
lower, #1 gunman as (Redacted)."(1095)

80) David Eagle, sophomore (1878) "The guy with the gun had black hair looked 
like it was spiked shaved on the sides.(sic) It was also blond on top. 5'9", 
about 18 years old. "He has since seen pictures of Harris and Klebold on 
television. ...David said that the person he saw did not look like the people 
he's seen on television."

81) John Vandemark, sophomore (2216) In the science hall, sees older shooter 
with dark hair, spiky with blond tips.

82) Erin Walton, sophomore (2243) In th science hall, sees suspect with short 
blond hair-"like he was going bald"-older, in his 30s.

83) Jen Smull, sophomore (2182) In science hall, sees Klebold and an older 
suspect, 25-30, blond with short, spiky, buzz-cut hair.

84) Nathan Anema, freshman (2359) "....Anema identified (Redacted) as possibly 
being the person he saw throw a pipe bomb during the shooting at Columbine High 
School on 4-20-99. ...Anema stated that he initially thought the person that he 
saw throwing the pipe bomb was (Redacted)."

85) Katy Beer, freshman (6636) ".... when the incident began at Columbine High 
School, she initially tried to get out of the school by going toward the main 
doors on the east side of the school by the administrative offices, however, she
said she saw a third shooter next to these offices and that this third shooter 
shot out windows at that location. ...Katy Beer told him this third shooter may 
have been (Redacted)."

86) Leanne Clark, freshman (1422) "...Clark told her that she saw who did the 
shooting in the cafeteria, and that Clark identified (Redacted) as a gunman."

87) Frank DeAngelis, School Principle(8018) "I also assisted the principle of 
Columbine, who was having hard time giving the pictures of possible suspects to 
the command post and was present when he looked at and identified one of the 
suspects he was named.(sic) The male suspect was in the custody of, I believe, 
Jefferson Co. Sheriff's investigators."

88) Amy Evans, senior (22205) "....Amy Evans said there was a third shooter and 
it was (Redacted)."

89) Mark Hengel, junior (5901) "Hengel identified Klebold and (Redacted) from 
the photograph in the attached 1A envelope.... Also attached is a 1A envelope is
a diagram of Columbine High School indicating the diection of Hengel and the two
individuals dressed in black." Apparently the interviewing officer didn't like 
what he was hearing, and so the interviewer ends up telling the eyewitness what 
he saw: "I then advised Mark Hengel that the skinny person he saw standing and 
shooting was Dylan Klebold and the person he saw standing over the duffel bag 
was Eric Harris."

90) AnneMarie Hochalter, junior, gunshot victim outside the cafeteria (18218) 
"Advised that Harris/Klebold did not shoot her. .... Has ID on shooters."

91) Leigh Kamens, senior (1422) While in the 'green room' off of the science 
hall, she identified (Redacted) as one of the gunmen.

92) Alicia Maes, sophomore (3614) "Alicia stated that when she first observed 
the male in the black trench coat, she thought it was a person known to her as 
(Redacted)."

93) Mark Opfer, freshman (1064) "At the time, Opfer believed the taller person 
in the black tenchcoat who with(sic) the shooter was (Redacted)....." "CHS 
student Mark Opfer was interviewed on 4-27-99... In that interview Opfer stated 
that he believed (Redacted, wearing a trench coat) was standing next to a gunman
and was involved in the shooting."(25625)

94) Josh Ortwein, senior (1939) "...Josh Ortwein witnessed the shooting and he 
was telling everyone he saw (Redacted) shooting a gun."

95) Jessica Rusch, sophomore (2143) "...she identified one of the gunmen at the 
Columbine High School as being an individual known as (Redacted)."

96) Valeen Schnurr, senior, gunshot victim in library (18969) "Per Valeen's 
mother, Shari Schnurr, Valeen possibly identified her shooter as (Redacted)."

97) Jennifer Tindall, sophomore (1226) "....insisted that neither suspect she 
saw was Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold. ...Tindall picked out (Redacted) 
photograph as possibly being the male in the black trench coat."

98) Adam Thompson, junior (21039) "....he had seen a gunman shooting inside the 
school. Does not think it is the same as gunmen in the media."

99) Terry Lawson, junior (10020) ID other than Harris and Klebold.

100) Monica Schuster junior (19470) "Schuster saw gunman but did not believe it 
was Harris and Klebold."

101) Kacey Ruegsegger, junior, gunshot victim in library (128) "Ruegsegger did 
not recognize the pictures of Harris and Klebold she has seen in the media as 
the gunmen in the library."
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