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From: •••@••.•••
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:10:20 EDT
To: •••@••.•••
THANKS VERY MUCHO---Re: more dialog re Fitts, Russo, "R", liberals, etc...
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Glad it was useful to you. I think I was off the mark, however, in
using the label 'liberal' in the analysis. I think it would have been
better to talk about how some people hide their head in the sand one
way, and some people in other ways. If the shoe fits someone, they
can wear it, but no need to give the shoe a label.
rkm
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From: M
To: "Richard Moore" <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: Israel purposely allowing Hezbollah to send rockets into Israel
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 06:24:11 -0500
With the fascists running things you never know, Israel may run
Hezbollah. Just as the U$A Fascist Ruling Class created the fake
"Islamic Terrorist" menace to continue their Trillion dollar looting
scheme for "defense", to control the local enemy (the general USA
populace), and to be able to murder the "left" around the world.
(i.e. "Islamic Terrorists" will conveniently show up where ever there
is a working class revolt. Very convenient. Hey what about those 1001
Problems with the 9/11 Fable? (i.e. the "Official Conspiracy theory"
Presented by the U$A Controlled Gibberish Outlets aka the corporate
media.
This government makes all decent intelligent people retch.
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Hi M,
You seem to be a bit angry, and I'm there with you. ;-)
Israel running Hezbollah? I suspect hyperbole on your part, however
it is a theory that deserves to be considered, but ultimately
rejected. There are many genuine freedom fighter movements in the
world, not all are assets of imperialist powers. Hezbollah seems to
be one of those, as their actions make perfect sense from a Lebanese
perspective. Besides, from an Israeli perspective, Hezbollah, by
trying to defend Lebanon, fits right into Israel's propaganda agenda.
They are 'controlling' Hezbollah merely by provoking them to act.
As regards 911: according to recent polls, something like 40% of
Americans now believe the government was involved in some way in the
911 ("New Pearl Harbor") incident. And yet people keep talking about
how the 'Truth Movement' needs to go mainstream, needs to be
represented in the mainstream media. What is this saying about our
sense of ourselves as citizens?
40% is a VERY large number in terms of public awareness. Consider,
for example, that the American Revolution was actively supported by
only about 20% of the population, the rest 'went along' for various
reasons (voluntary or otherwise). Consider also that if someone owns
only 5% of a corporate stock, they can usually manage to control the
Board (barring the existence of other large blocks of stock).
We seem to be in a situation where none of us consider anything to be
'real' unless we see it on CNN, regardless of how many of us already
know it's true. Does this make sense?
rkm
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Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:11:33 +0800
To: •••@••.•••
From: B
Subject: Re: Israel purposely allowing Hezbollah to send rockets into
Israel
Well, foreknowledge of Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor as one
stratagem among oodles of others like WTC engineered by Bush Admin.
for manipulation of the masses.
Betty
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knowledge of history is very important in accurately interpreting
current events - rkm
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From: •••@••.•••
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 16:47:26 EDT
Subject: Re: Israel purposely allowing Hezbollah to send rockets into Israel
To: •••@••.•••
Richard, Here's my take, for whatever it's worth.
Wars are usually fought for economic reasons, irrespective of what
political leaders say. The Israeli/Lebanon conflict (plus supporting
casts) has, what I believe, a central economic reason, i.e. water
from the Litani river which Israel desperately needs for further
expansion. (Here are two good sites to consider --
THE LITANI RIVER OF LEBANON:
http://web.macam.ac.il/~arnon/Int-ME/water/THE%20LITANI%20RIVER.htm
ICE Cases: Litani River Dispute:
http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/litani.htm
Both were written well before the present conflict started.
Ricks is probably right----but doesn't consider all the reasons.
With rockets reaching inside Israel, a need for a much wider buffer
zone can, and probably will, be the central theme of an Israeli PR
program for a much wider occupied buffer zone including at least one
side of the Litani.
I believe Israel has the patience to achieve its goal little by
little and gaining control of southern Lebanon, south of the Litani
would provide water it much needs for further expansion while
consolidating its gains and planing its next move.
I'm still skeptical about an attack on Iran. Disrupting the movement
of oil out of the Persian Gulf, even for a few weeks, could plunge
much of the World into a depression. The oil companies probably
wouldn't like that. But, we can only guess, basing our guesses on
what little relevant information we have.
Best wishes, Tom
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Hi Tom,
The Litani River does appear to be part of the agenda, and yes,
provoking Hezbollah to attack deeper in Israel would aid in that
objective. But I'm not sure if that objective can be obtained if
there is an international force in the buffer zone. I wouldn't
describe Israel as 'patient'. I'd say rather 'relentless'.
The considerations around an Iran invasion are far too complex to be
expressed in a single sentence about oil companies. Yes there might
be a global economic collapse, and that might be exactly what is
being planned. The game is about global domination, and in that game
millions of suffering people and some short-term oil-profit losses
may be simply the eggs that must be broken to make omelettes.
rkm
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From: M2
To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: Israel purposely allowing Hezbollah to send rockets into Israel
You bother me by posting the below item without a URL. So of course I
check it out at
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/06/rs.01.html
But you bother me even more by propagating a suggestion made by RICKS
based on what he sez - that he's reporting on what anonymous
"military analysts" are suggesting, -- without anything to support
the factual basis.
When I was a kid in the UK of the 1940's, we would make up stories
that the Brit soldiers evacuated from France via Dunkirk had
purposely abandoned medical supplies - mostly castor oil for the
purpose of "improving" the moral of German troops.
This thing of Ricks is just as ludicrous
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Hi M2,
The Hezbollah rocket attacks are critically important in the
propaganda justification for Israel's ongoing assault. Why do you
consider it ludicrous that Israel would want to keep this
justification in place? And what would be the purpose of a Washington
Post reporter, or military analysts, in planting such a story if it
is false?
rkm
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Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:00:42 -0700
To: "•••@••.•••" <•••@••.•••>
From: L
Subject: Great Book!!!
Richard,
Wait'll you hear this . . . without me knowing it, my wife ordered
your book after hearing about it on one of her mailing lists. When it
came, she excitedly showed it to me and said, "Now THIS is a book you
HAVE to read!" . . . As soon as I saw your name on the cover I knew
she was right. . . . Until this moment, she had no idea that you and
I had corresponded once, and that I'm a fan of your mailing list
emails.
So I wanted to let you know that your message is spreading to the
people who need to hear it, AND it is coming at us from many
directions. I hope you have a great success in continuing to get your
thoughts widely known.
Peace, love, & light,
L
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Hi L,
Thanks, that's very encouraging news. World-of-mouth is the main way
the book will get known, and your report is a favorable indicator. It
looks like our August sales will be about twice our July sales, which
is another favorable indicator.
cheers,
rkm
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